Session 5 Notes: Evil, suffering & a God of love August 13, 2006
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Here are some brainstorming notes from the sessions held on 18 & 20 June 2006. Feel free to add your own thoughts in the comments section.
Who is God we are talking about?
- traditional view of God
- big mystery
- cant be inside yourself…?
- = “conventional wisdom” (Borg)
Who wants to sacrifice themselves?
but we all do it (in some way)
but what is the other option?
- selfishness
- fear of closeness, fear of opening yourself to others
Self-protection mechanism
- someone else will do it
- scared of the disappointment of hopes (e.g. Nthn Ireland)
- Can’t enjoy the good times without the bad…?
Acknowledge the reality of suffering
but there are different types of suffering = different causes of suffering
More important is our response – try to do something to reduce suffering
Not try to answer why
(but this is religion’s job?!)
the answer to why is what we do:
good responses: love, compassion, protest
bad responses: doing nothing, judgmentalism, not my problem (denial)
suffering is very important for our picture of the Divine
elements of our picture of the Divine include:
1. inner resources to respond (finding the God within)
2. others who support us
a) cross as a mistake = the senselessness of suffering
b) but fact that Jesus shared our suffering is an important source of strength for many people’s faith lives
a & b) together = integrity of love & forgiveness
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Don’t like the Korean fairy story – result more important than the path, it seems to be encouraging sacrifice or giving away what you cannot afford
All dumped onto God – no mention of other people (can we “send away” pain?)
= old models of God being resorted to
Does there have to be a happy ending?
Buddhist acceptance of pain and compassion of people to people
Compassion = when our souls are touched by suffering of others
There is an imprint within us that we can name sacred/divine
“I’ve never come across a baby that was evil!”
types of suffering need to be differentiated:
- torture
- horrific violence
- extreme illness
do we have to say why? E.g. the Cross as senseless violence
some explanations/reasons do not give meaning
can we accept random violence?
Importance of failing
We have choices but different ability to choose
Balance valuing yourself/ego with humility
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