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Session 5 Notes: Evil, suffering & a God of love August 13, 2006

Posted by standrewsltq in Christian Thinking, Christianity: Comments and Questions, Faith, God, Religion, Spiritual Study, notes from the whiteboard.
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Here are some brainstorming notes from the sessions held on 18 & 20 June 2006. Feel free to add your own thoughts in the comments section.

Who is God we are talking about?

  •  traditional view of God
  •  big mystery
  •  cant be inside yourself…?
  • = “conventional wisdom” (Borg)

Who wants to sacrifice themselves?
but we all do it (in some way)
but what is the other option?
- selfishness
- fear of closeness, fear of opening yourself to others

Self-protection mechanism

  •  someone else will do it
  •  scared of the disappointment of hopes (e.g. Nthn Ireland)
  • Can’t enjoy the good times without the bad…?

Acknowledge the reality of suffering

but there are different types of suffering = different causes of suffering

More important is our response – try to do something to reduce suffering

Not try to answer why

(but this is religion’s job?!)

the answer to why is what we do:

good responses: love, compassion, protest

bad responses: doing nothing, judgmentalism, not my problem (denial)

suffering is very important for our picture of the Divine
elements of our picture of the Divine include:
1. inner resources to respond (finding the God within)
2. others who support us

a) cross as a mistake = the senselessness of suffering

b) but fact that Jesus shared our suffering is an important source of strength for many people’s faith lives

a & b) together = integrity of love & forgiveness

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Don’t like the Korean fairy story – result more important than the path, it seems to be encouraging sacrifice or giving away what you cannot afford

All dumped onto God – no mention of other people (can we “send away” pain?)

= old models of God being resorted to

Does there have to be a happy ending?

Buddhist acceptance of pain and compassion of people to people

Compassion = when our souls are touched by suffering of others

There is an imprint within us that we can name sacred/divine

“I’ve never come across a baby that was evil!”

types of suffering need to be differentiated:

  • torture
  • horrific violence
  • extreme illness

do we have to say why? E.g. the Cross as senseless violence

some explanations/reasons do not give meaning

can we accept random violence?

Importance of failing

We have choices but different ability to choose

Balance valuing yourself/ego with humility

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